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Fetish McButt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.03 02:49:00 -
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First off: looks good in general. Very good indeed. I know many ppl cry about the ridicilious ewar ranges, but learn to live with them. The shipclass is useless atm in big picture. Only few niche pilots using em as solo or what ever.
Then few complaints. Mainly about the hyena.
- The hyena gets lesser web bonus than huginn / rapier, where the Keres gets the same bonus than lach / arazu. Why this?
- The hyenas sig radius bonus is quite irrelevant. Either make it lilbit bigger, or then the MWD sig radius bonus.
Secondly the Kitsune.
- I strongly disagree on doubling the kitsunes jamming range. It already is ridiciliously high. Unmodified all lvl 5 char is 70+48. Already now, as it is, you can get it to 116km + 48km. By doubling that, you are dangerousely close to gamebreaking ranges.. Welcome back the 200km falcons. Even to a niche use of dualboxing a such ship with an alt to rescue your beloved tackled ship, you should easily be able to make it possible to jam from 200ish km. not good. Especially, as ECM is as broken as it is as a gamemechanic. |
Fetish McButt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.03 07:10:00 -
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Kesthely wrote:
KITSUNE
Caldari Frigate Bonuses:
20% bonus to ECM target jammer strength per level
20% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level (Instead of: 10% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level)
Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
25% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range per level (+12.5% per level)
20% reduction in ECM target jammers cycle time (Instead of: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level)
(maybe even incorporate its capacitor bonus into the hull?)
With this you reduce the cycle time of its jammers, allowing a better allocation in fast frigate combats, increase the survivability of the kitsune without makeing it much stronger, and keep a tactical niche to it no other jamming ship has.
So you want an lockbreaker that is targeted and works from 200ish km? Beacause this is what you just proposed. 20% per level = 0 cycletime = infinite ecm targeted lockbreaker. Sorry to say, but FYP.
Also the 20 second cycletime works to other direction aswell. Lucky jam, and your target is out of the game for 20seconds. Whitch btw is a VERY significant amount of time in frig pvp.
You should THINK before writing stupid ideas like this. The cycletime of ecm jammers is currently the ONLY thing making them fightable at all.
Also you never ever should expect a permajam result. Never. Not in any circumstances what so ever. Especially when gaining such a significant bonus to range. You do realize, that with bonus like that you can get the jammer optimal near to 200km. Whitch is totally unacceptable. |
Fetish McButt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.03 07:13:00 -
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Chessur wrote:I... Can't seriously believe fozzie that you think giving a linked, fed webbed hyena 87K web range is some how a good idea. Nano PvP will be completely eclipsed with this ******* monster unleashed. Its going to be fast as all hell, have amazing sig tank, and disgusting web range- all for a cheap, easily trainable hull.
In fact all of the EAF's have gotten ridiculous. EWAR is so punishing to a small gang / solo pilot. This kind of unprecedented boost really places that community in a very, very difficult spot. Were these ships just made for some AT shenanigans?
Please explain to me how you see a gang dealing with that hyena? Just bring enough maulus of their own to damp everything down?
This is so far over the top. I can understand the huginn / rapier having some nice bonues. They are expensive, difficult to train, and can at least be shot at / killed. EvE has no place for these EAF monsters. EWAR is just to brutal on these frig hulls.
Play better then. Pretty much. I too hate the ECM mechanics, but still I think it has a place in gamemechanics. If you are so worried bout stuff like ability to kite away, just warp on and off, until you split them enough. And after all, the hyena is and will be oneshottable. Keres then again is not to a solo pilot, as it will damp you to 0km |
Fetish McButt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:22:00 -
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Chessur wrote:
Griffens get FOF missiled, or I can actually shoot / kill them. They are not sitting out at suer extreme ranges.
And no you may not call me skippy / adapting. There is no way to adapt to a hyena when you are solo / super small gang. Those things are going to be fuckign nightmares. Again, solo / small gang pilot running away and 're-grouping' as advice. WTF kind of idea is that?
FA super small gang = 150 dudes. Yes, I know its difficult to live in eve like this. Anything with med longrange guns and fast lock can kill the hyena even before it gets its speed up. HTFU |
Fetish McButt
sebiestor tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.04 18:16:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:
My point on the current situation is that doomsayers, calling that keres will be able to shutdown all form of solo pvp are wrong, because they would already have this capability agaisnt most ships as of TODAY, yet their usage is rare.
While this is completely true and I agree with it, there is one fact to remember. When a shipclass gets buffed, ppl tend to start to fly them a LOT more, therefore a sight of keres / any other EAF will increase dramatically after the rubicon patch. Therefore the problems they bring, will increase a lot :) |
Fetish McButt
sebiestor tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.07 09:15:00 -
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Adwokat Diabla wrote:I feel that the sentinel in particular needs either a 4th highslot or a greater bonus to neuting. The current neut amount just isn't worth it to be good for anything against larger things which makes it practically very limited outside of FW. Additionally why not swap the cap recharge bonus for a optimal range bonus to td's when both the kitsune and the hyena both have range bonuses, and then just make the capacitor naturally bigger/recharge more.
Are you stupid, ****** or an idiot?
I bet you would like to have the neut to 80km, consume no cap at all and be able to neut a BS dry with one neutcycle. I bet you would like to give the sentinel speed up to 8km/s and tank of a heavy interdictor while keeping its sig at 15m.
Humans generally have this thing called brain. Please use it before you open your ******** mouth. |
Fetish McButt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.09 09:11:00 -
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This post is made from small/med scale 0.0 fleet warfare pov
First of all to the recons. They are not OP. Nowdays as people have too much isk and characters rapier / arazu is able to point/web close to 100km. quite a many of modern day "standard fits" can deal damage to or close to 100km. Long gone are the days of abaddon fleets and dmg range of 60ish kilometers.
Secondly to the EAF:s. They are fine as they are now presented except the Kitsunes RIDICILIOUS ecm range. It is easy to fit a 200ish km sniping jammer. That is WAY TOO much. Even it is not the fastest or most hp one of the EAF's, it still can jam stuff from 200ish km. Plenty enough time to GTFO if someone starts approaching.
If there is something I really dislike about the new EAF's it is the capability to do the same thing than recons to the same or longer ranges. If you are making the EAF ranges (keres / hyena namely) to the ranges earlier presented here, then the Recons needs to be buffed a bit. Make for example a small bonus to web AMOUNT bonus to accompany the range bonus to huginn/Rapier. Also strenghten the painterbonuses up a bit. More damping power to arazu/lachesis. etc etc. The pilgrim and curse have been the loosers of the Recon bracket quite a time now. They should need to be buffed. |
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